I have written before about my respect and admiration for John Burns, lead Iraq correspondent for the New York Times. He appeared recently on “The Charlie Rose Show” the other night to discuss, among other things, the current situation there in Iraq and in particular Baghdad as well as the effects of the surge. I know many out there who believe in an immediate pull-out and they have, admittedly, some good arguments. I am aware of just as many who advocate the Bush doctrine and those who have more moderate plans on our future in Iraq. I personally believe that whatever your political persuasion or opinion on withdrawal, the fact remains that we will be there for the foreseeable future, mainly because, rightly or wrongly, we have created a very dangerous situation for those Iraqis who have high hopes for their country and do not want to fall the way of sectarian violence or religious fundamentalism. And it is worth listening to John Burns’ take on the current level of violence and the political environment in which all this is taking place. His main argument is that, right now, American presence in Iraq inhibits the slaughter of Iraqi against Iraqi, Shiite against Sunni. Here is what Burns told Rose:
“I think quite simply that the United States forces here — and I find this to be very widely agreed amongst Iraqis that I know, of all ethnic and sectarian backgrounds — the United States armed forces are a very important inhibitor against violence. I know it’s argued by some people that they provoke the violence. I simply don’t believe that to be in the main true. I think it’s a much larger truth that where American forces are present, they are inhibiting sectarian violence, and they are going after the people, particularly al-Qaeda and the Shiite death squads, who are provoking the violence. Remove them or at least remove them quickly, and it seems to me — controversial as this may seem to be saying in the present circumstances, while I know there’s this agonizing debate going on in the United States about this — that you hve to weigh the price. And the price would very likely be very, very high levels of violence, at least in the short run and perhaps, perhaps - perhaps for quite a considerable period of time.”
“And there’s no doubt that the price of staying is very, very high in American blood, to begin with, and American treasure, too. But it seems to me incontrovertible that the most likely outcome of an American withdrawal any time soon would be cataclysmic violence. And I find that to be widely agreed amongst Iraqis, including Iraqis who strongly opposed the invasion.”
“General Lynch feels, as do the other commanders of the surge, that they have made substantial progress. And that they’re likely to make more if they’re given time. They know they don’t have beyond March of next year because March 31st, 08 is the deadline set by the Pentagon as a matter of troop limits to how long they can support the surge. But they believe that if they’e given that amount of time, they can make a real difference in the levels of violence. They’ll have more time to train up the Iraqi forces to come in behind them and hold these areas.”
Critics of this war, it seems to me, do not care to examine the horrific levels of violence being committed by Iraqi against Iraqi. The daily bloodletting is a reminder, to them, of the wrongfulness of our initial incursion into the country and our extended stay, irregardless of our motives during this occupation. I would go so far as to venture that American critics of this war feigned the same indifference to the enormities of Saddam’s murderous rule over his own people over the years. Yes, the daily death toll in Iraq is gruesome. But do you honestly believe that it measures up to the scores butchered by the Despot from Tikrit? So many of his victims simply disappeared, found in mass graves like the Jews at Babi Yar or the Polish officers in the Katyn Forest. And yet no one ever noticed or discussed the scale of these murders nor do the critics of the war wish to do so now.
How can Senator Reid, Speaker Pelosi be so cocksure that the American engagement be severed so completely without the slightest concern of the coming bloodbath that will surely ensue? How can they so blithely ignore the admonitions of someone with authority such as John Burns?
Here is the video of Burns’ comments on the Rose program along with two other earlier interviews. They are all worth watching and thinking about. I urge you to do so.